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A pastor, a vicar, a Trekkie, and a Star Wars fan walk into a recording session...
That’s the set-up for this series, which explores the intersection of religion and science fiction. The hosts — Pastor Dave, Vicar Keith, Dan, and Drew — discuss a particular theological topic as it morphs through the sci-fi realm. Well, Pastor Dave tries to keep everyone focused on one particular topic. He really tries. Their mothers should have warned him.
A pastor, a vicar, a Trekkie, and a Star Wars fan walk into a recording session...
That’s the set-up for this series, which explores the intersection of religion and science fiction. The hosts — Pastor Dave, Vicar Keith, Dan, and Drew — discuss a particular theological topic as it morphs through the sci-fi realm. Well, Pastor Dave tries to keep everyone focused on one particular topic. He really tries. Their mothers should have warned him.
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Thursday Dec 04, 2025
Episode 51: The DS9 Debacle
Thursday Dec 04, 2025
Thursday Dec 04, 2025
In this episode, Pastor Dave, Dan, Drew, and Vicar Keith begin by discussing franchise fatigue, which leads to a conversation comparing two Star Trek series, "The Next Generation" and "Deep Space Nine" (DS9). Dave struggles to connect with DS9's morally complex Federation, and then the crew adds "Babylon 5" to the mix. How do each of these shows handle topics such as religion, utopian ideals, and the challenges of leadership? This and more is in store for you as we travel to Quark's bar and the struggle with the Minbari continues.
"Building one space station for everyone was and is insane: we should have built a dozen."
- Larry Niven
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Credits:
Co-Producers & Co-Hosts: Dave Kamphuis & Drew Nelsen
Special Guest Vicar: Keith Monroe
Producer & Plucky Sidekick: Dan Mushalko
Editor: Devon Mushalko

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